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lmreynolds
Posts:17
 | | 10/13/2008 12:20 AM |
 Alert | | I find it cute to read all of these postings about how poorly the city is investing and how now is a bad time to invest ect…ect..made by a majority of individuals who showed such great investment practices as to find themselves in a situation where they paid twice as much for their home than the foreclosure next door sold for. Furthermore, they also have their largest investment (their home) in a city in which they are so focused on not approving a long term investment on something that would to an extent increase their property value even if they chose not to use it. | | | |
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| | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 12:21 AM |
Alert | | Sure go ahead and argue about the low income families who are on a budget...I work in the educational field...as has my wife, not a high tax bracket family ourselves...but the truth is a city should not stop growing simply to accommodate the fact that people moved here for a low initial cost of living. Did they expect to be exempt from increased taxes as the city grew...were they expecting only the developers to put $ down and invest in the city...in the meantime complain about the shortcomings of the developers and run for cover when suddenly investing in the cities growth affects their budget? BTW...Pacana park was built and to be maintained by the developers for a five year period after which the City would then take it over. Did they think their newly established city is only expecting to draw in those on a tight and fixed budget? New slogan, "Move to Maricopa, a low cost of living...and the high crime rate and lack of city growth to prove it"?!?! | | | |
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| | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 12:21 AM |
Alert | A lot of the reason there are so many homes here is because of the initial attraction of Maricopa's growth...not because Arizona needed another low cost below avg market value community. But Maricopa, and the country as a whole, has been going down the pipes...those who cannot afford their own homes have found new hope settling right next to those who years before them made a bad investment. Stop leaning on the poor economy, limited incomes, poor job market, bad city decisions.ect...ect.. .the list goes on. If you plan to live here a long time, and/or expect to raise children here...why not vote for a long term INVESTMENT. I see a city...that despite economic troubles is still trying to grow. Despite a horrible economy they see a future need and are planning ahead for it. Sure...there is a list of needs as long as the railroad that cuts thru our city, prioritized differently based only on an individual’s perspective.
I agree…let’s spend the $ on improving the roads…so in the future…we will have nice roads that lead to nothing more than vast amounts of vacant and low income neighborhoods riddled with bored teens, high crime rates, and nothing at all do to. Sounds well thought out to me. Well that killed my late night insomnia…thanks for the ear! =)
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:821
| | 10/13/2008 7:58 AM |
Alert | Posted By lmreynolds on 10/13/2008 12:21 AM
I agree…let’s spend the $ on improving the roads…so in the future…we will have nice roads that lead to nothing more than vast amounts of vacant and low income neighborhoods riddled with bored teens, high crime rates, and nothing at all do to. Sounds well thought out to me. Well that killed my late night insomnia…thanks for the ear! =)
Yes, let's put more money into roads. $65,500,000 would build some good roads. The city council should put the Parks Bond on the back burner and focus on widening the 347 or finding anonther way to I10.
I looked at the Yes on 5 website and the fancy mailer they sent out, but I have yet to read if the MAINTENANCE of these parks, pools, skate parks and such is in the $65,500, 000 or if the P&R budget will be increased. | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good.
Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | pissedparent
Posts:333
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| 10/13/2008 9:21 AM |
Alert | Posted By lmreynolds on 10/13/2008 12:21 AM
Sure go ahead and argue about the low income families who are on a budget...I work in the educational field...as has my wife, not a high tax bracket family ourselves...but the truth is a city should not stop growing simply to accommodate the fact that people moved here for a low initial cost of living. Did they expect to be exempt from increased taxes as the city grew...were they expecting only the developers to put $ down and invest in the city...in the meantime complain about the shortcomings of the developers and run for cover when suddenly investing in the cities growth affects their budget? BTW...Pacana park was built and to be maintained by the developers for a five year period after which the City would then take it over. Did they think their newly established city is only expecting to draw in those on a tight and fixed budget? New slogan, "Move to Maricopa, a low cost of living...and the high crime rate and lack of city growth to prove it"?!?!
High crime rate.....where do you get that?
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:821
| | 10/13/2008 12:01 PM |
Alert | If people won't move here, because we don't have 82 parks, an aquatic center (public pools are gross), a skate park or dog park, then what why did you move here? | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good.
Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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|  | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 1:36 PM |
Alert | | Pissedparent....the high crime rate was not in reference to what currently is. To be honest I have little first hand knowledge of our city's current crime rate. THough I doubt it would take more than a few minutes to find out. The slogan's intent was part satire and part the common relation of low income/unemployment in relation to crime rates. I hope that addressed your question. Have a great day! =) | | | |
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| | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 1:51 PM |
Alert | Cholo, since I do not stand on any solid ground from which to point fingers at others for their grammar ect...I will simply do my best to answer what I think your question is.
First...I made a long term investment. Time will tell if it was a good or bad investment, but my wife and I bought a house out here as a long term investment. We are not among the group of people who suddenly turned into house flippers from watching too much HGTV. We fortunatly do not have to cover the mortgage for out Copa house, our renters have done a good job of that while also being quality neighbors who treat our house with the respect they would treat their own with. We are able to cover the cost of the mortgage even if down the road it goes unrented for a long period of time, or if we have to cut the rent to stay competitive in the falling market.
Also... we were among the few investors who did things by the book. The Villages required us to use the house as our primary residence in order to purchase it. We knew of several others who would just agree and leave it vacant or sold it off with never having lived in it. So we rented out our house in Ahwatukee, followed the contract, and moved out to Copa for two years. After which we rented out the house and moved back to Ahwatukee. Our house and location in Tukee were my idea of perfect. I loved living there, but the house was modest with a small back yard. I'm a guy who grew up with a bit of land around the house. I miss having a large yard and with the addition of kids to the family we decided to move into a house with a larger yard. Also planning to take care of my mother in-law...and her father...we needed a larger home as well. Currently the market is ripe for buying if done the right way. however of the few places we could afford such a house and lot, we found ourselves recalling what we grew to like about Maricopa over the two years we lived there. Nothing is perfect...it has it's pros and cons, but it meets our needs and there is a lot we do like/love about Copa. Now the paperwork is signed, we expect it to be where we will stay for at least the next 25+ years and raise our children. One can never know for sure...but I do not live to be ruled by fear of the unknown. And now that I am here, I plan to get more involved in the city and our community, learn what I can...and strive to make it the best it can be for our children. | | | |
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| | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 1:52 PM |
Alert | | I hope that answered your question. Have a great day! | | | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:821
| | 10/13/2008 2:03 PM |
Alert | Wow, good for you and your extended family! Thats so cool, that you are here full time now! If I thought that our current city council was capable of RESPONSIBLY managing this money, then I might consider voting yes. However, because of their past waste of city money, I see them wasting this money as well. NO ON 5 | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good.
Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:821
| | 10/13/2008 2:12 PM |
Alert | All of this "stuff" would be nice to have. However, none of it is needed. With these uncertain economic times, now is not the time to plunge the taxpayers into debt of $107,000,000. Let's see this again in 2 to 4 years. Thanks and have a great great day! | |
I plan on living forever, so far so good.
Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | lmreynolds
Posts:17
| | 10/13/2008 8:48 PM |
Alert | | cholo well the beauty of things is we show up, state our opinion, and walk away. Hopefully whatever way it ends up going, I'm sure our intent is the same for most of the posters on this board...to better our community and ensure stability for generations to come. So I raise my glass to nothing but the end result being the best for all of us. TAKE CARE. We might agree to agree or disagree again on some other topic. Until then the best to you and yours!! | | | |
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| | Phil.Fulmer
Posts:103
| | 10/13/2008 8:58 PM |
Alert | Delaying the vote delays these projects and you won't see them built for another several years. It does take time for these projects. If you push this vote to 2012 you won't see anything for 2-3 years, or 2014/2015.
And for those who think the schools should help out, take a look at the local tackle football league. They can't get a full size field marked off at any elementary school. | | | |
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| | cholo bandito
Posts:821
| | 10/13/2008 9:55 PM |
Alert | You guys are so right. I never looked at it that way. Its only tax money. There is plenty more where that came from! Let's throw $107,000,000 at Park and Rec. While we are taxing, lets go the extra mile to Maricopa the best city ever! $500,000,000 and we can build a baseball stadium for a minor league team. $1,000,000,000 and we can have our own international airport! I have made some calls for bids and I will post when they get back to me. So I don't have the exact dollar number on paving the streets with gold. 
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I plan on living forever, so far so good.
Cigarettes are stupid. If you are going to smoke something, it might as well get you high.
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| | thick
Posts:591
| | 10/14/2008 8:18 AM |
Alert | | I'm too lazy to re-read through 20 pages of posts on all the Question 5 topics, but I thought that these facilities couldn't be built until such time the City had the budget to maintain them and that was at least a couple years out. And, if City income is a dismal as some have suggested, could we be looking at more than a couple years before they could even get maintenance & operation on the books? So, again, if that's the case, what does passing this bond RIGHT NOW buy us? Why the need to vote on the ENTIRE 65m right now? I should think that land acquisition and planning/design could be done in the interim... and for a lot less. How soon could this be revisted (and perhaps revised), if it doesn't pass? Lastly, I threw away the literature, but does interest begin accruing as soon as the bond question is passed? If so, passing it prematurely would cost more, right? I'm not against investing in our town, I just want to make sure that it is done carefully and wisely. | | | |
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| | mrwonderful
Posts:276
| | 10/14/2008 8:32 AM |
Alert | City residents should realize they are allowing the P/R director with no experience make major decisions. I sure hope to see second and third reviews of this project before implimenting it. Creative financing seems down the tubes, so why go for hard money game? | | | |
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| | BSpearsBdyGuard
Posts:142
| | 10/14/2008 8:53 AM |
Alert | | Yeah, the guy is a hack. He got a park built before a permanent city hall was built. And now a library as well. I thought Bruce took away your keyboard Mr.Wonderful...did he not? Or did you forget to log in as AZCarCarrier? | | | |
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| | thick
Posts:591
| | 10/14/2008 9:06 AM |
Alert | | I have no reason to distrust or have no faith in the P/R Director. Seems like a stand-up guy who's accomplished a lot in a little time with a miniscule budget. | | | |
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| | AzSandSlinger
Posts:739
| | 10/14/2008 9:09 AM |
Alert | lol.. I was going to weigh in on mrwonderful.. but he actually did make a coherent (dare I say sober?) post.. then again, it is only 9am.. -Shane | |
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| | mrwonderful
Posts:276
| | 10/14/2008 9:15 AM |
Alert | Open check books usually put money at risk immediately, so be ready for anything in today's economy. Just look at Goodyear right now, do you want Maricopa in the same basket? SHOULDA/WOULDA/ COULDA approach just doesn't work in financially responsible situations. | | | |
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